Hobby Japan Scans:



lineup:

Volume 1
-Lightning (20cm)
-Snow Villiers (22.6cm)
-Oerba Dia Vanille (20cm)

release date: December 2009 (Japan), February 2010 (North America)

*deluxe*
-Shiva Bike / Styria & Nix

release date: March 2010

Volume 2
-Sazh Katzroy
-Hope Estheim
-Oerba Yun Fang

release date: April 2010

*deluxe*
-Odin

release date: July 2010

What are Play Arts Kais?

if kai means no elbow joints, i wud prefer the normal ones...

is SE's planning to do barbie joints?

Stupid they´re doing less articulation.

that would be slightly better.. it wouldn't have the full range of motion, but a little posability is better than none

I'm also worried about the scale with this Kai thing.. hope they're not too big..

Another reminder that I need to get a 360 or PS3 in the future so that I can play XIII. :\

@ touya:
yeah, it would limit the articulation, but a barbie/hidden joint looks kinda good on squall's jacket don't you think?

btw, what is kai?

^King kai, he trained Goku and learned him the spi-

oh wait..

but naw, no idea what it means, but obviously it stands the new type of PA.

That was my first thought too but I like to be negative and jump on the hater train. Choo choo!

kai

joints aren't that visible on dark colored clothing with folds.. & there's always TA's, statics, sculpture, masterpiece, formation & all the other "arts" if the visibility of joints mattered

..but if they really insist on hiding them, something even better than Barbie joints should be implemented: Hot Toys Rocky Balboa joints!!

Me = sad if they don't do a regular Lightning.

i agree. they should do the Hot Toys muscle body type joints.

what next?

soft squishy boobies for female PA's???

With SE's quality control, Rubber skin with joints underneath is a big no-no for me... I bet that shit would be rotting and cracking like hell.

And thing that should be brought up, if they're going to cover the knee and elbow joints, why not the ball-jointed shoulders as well?

^
covering the entire shoulder with rubber will definitely limit the articulation.
i think even HT saw this problem.

I realize that, but if they're trying to hide the joints, why not cover one of the most glaring ones too?

There's nothing wrong with the way PA's are being made now. don't "fix" what isn't broken

^This.

What they need to do is keep doing them like they've been. It works. The size and articulation are perfectly fine, so they don't need to 'try something new', and screw it up.

indeed... hope they clear this up soon

The new dragonball kai is out, and i found out kai means:

"Kai" meaning "updated," "modified," or "altered."

dont know if anybodys already mentioned that, just though i would incase not.

Imagine if they decided to remake all the PAs with the new rubber thing and they all deteriorated?

^*kills self*

I wouldn't bother getting the updates, unless they had significantly better headsculpts that is.

now im ready to see a Squall Kai! lol.

AC Cloud Kai FTW!!! lol... Come on SE you just GOT to do a perfect AC cloud for ACC

I wouldn't mind new Rinoa & Selphie heads

..gawrsh, I hope they give Noctis the amount of articulation that the Palace of Wisdom requires

T-man - Let's hope that every FNC PA, be it XIII or Versus, comes with more articulation than a Barbie doll. I swear, I hope that Lightning's lack of articulation is just for the showroom aesthetics and not a permanent change of standard.

Hmm... I was looking for pictures of play arts on google and came upon a close-up of "Kai" Lightning. I noticed something, see how her long glove and the little arm band on her other arm are exactly at the same proximity to her shoulder? I took a closer look at both of them, and it looked like her skin just tapered ever so slightly into them. I'm GUESSING, that maybe the whole arm is detachable at that point so you have the option of bendable and non bendable arms. I'm totally just guessing though.



I mean, just look at the area where her arm meets her glove and armband. Don't they look slightly detached? Or is it just the picture playing optical illusions on me

Pic not worky.

well, any close up picture would work i'm sure, but here's the picture that I saw.

http://www.ff-xiii.net/images/misc/334play3.jpg

Pic is forbidden lol

Drag und drop.

well, what the heck, i don't know, it works on mine, just look for a close up picture on google or something

Liam's right, it works fine when you drag and drop.

There's definitely swivel joints in the upper portion of her arms... Interchangable arms could be possible, but it's hard to say for sure at this point.

Why is SE doing this anyways? Has anyone complained about the way they make PA's? I'm guessing no. And if someone did then that are idiots. I don't care if you can see the articulation. If they are going for the whole rubber skin thing, i think it's a step in the wrong direction, as in the past i bought figures like that and it tends to limit the articulation.

EDIT:

Oh and if it's interchangeable arms, well that's just stupid as it'll take more time to change her pose than if she had visible articulation.

Me is not amused with this PA....

^ plus that close up, she's got a horrendous facesculpt to top it all off.

^ LOL! Nicely put!

The first prototype had real articulation... and it looks better because you can see the articulation. It is an action figure after all.

indeed, let's just hope PA Kai's doesn't turn out to be the crap idea that we think it is

I don't know, HTs hid articulation on Rambo, Krauser from RE4 etc and they can still pose. My The Dark Knight Batman can pose better than any PA fig and he has a whole rubber suit over his body. However, to keep the new PAs affordable and getting good rubber to cover the joints, I don't have much faith in SE at all. I think they'll go for the cheapest quality shit they can find. Has anyone else noticed their skin paint apps are still shit?

^OMG, yes. The paint apps on my CC Cloud was HORRIBLE. You'd think charging as much as they do they could get better quality control.

1st post...

New Play Arts Kai picstures of Vanille & Snow

..just like Lightning, no joints for Vanille

Looking nice, though Vanille doesn´t appear to have much neck.

OMG SNOW!!! FUCK YEAH!!!

Nies. If they've covered the joints with some kind of rubber, I hope that stuff doesn't detoriate.

^ Of course it will deteriorate, it's a SE product after all. I can't see them using better quality rubber than HTs or Medicom and both of those companies had some deteriorating problems before. Let's hope SE surprises me on this.

*edit* after some talk, Rich, Yawn and I don't think it's rubber covering up the joints anymore because in one of the pics on the first pose you can see shoulder articulation, but there's no rubber sleeve on the arm to cover the joints for the elbow... I think they just haven't added articulation yet.

If there aren't any arm joints now, it's pathetic.

Lightning they might of got away with as shes in a sort of dynamic pose.

But if Vanille can't move out of that fucking standing to attention pose, then they aren't PA's, they're badly posed trading arts.

I edited my last post about the rubber covering joints.

I think it's probably best to wait and see before we jump to any conclusions, especially since they really haven't said all that much about them yet. They probably have some trick up their sleeves, I just have NO clue what it could possibly be...

Oooohs, I like Lightning and Snow. But yeah, Vanille looks a little... strange there.

I really hope the wonky proto pics are just that, and when the figures are actually released they look awesome. I picked up Cloud and Seph from KH and I'm more than impressed. But, if the XIII figures have limited articulation I'm definately skipping them. I passed on figures like that when I was a kid, I'll do it now.

Hey I just found this picture on the SE official blog!!

It looks like the articulation is back.... don't really know what -kai- is then...




here is the link

http://member.square-enix.com/na/featur ... ry/033.jpg