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Doubtful, lol. What has Mistwalker done since Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, anyway?
(Edit: Oh, NDS games, exciting)

But yeah, that's kinda sad news, lol, I hope they can assemble the old team sooner rather than later, I don't exactly want to wait 10 years for it, I can't imagine myself playing videogames in 10 years as much as I do now, and I already don't play that much anymore. >_>

Also, anyone could die in 10 years, or tomorrow :awesome

Just found out one of my childhood friends died, so sorry for the mortality rant :P

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^lol, not much. I think they have something "big" in the works though. :cwatudid

I don't think he's bitter or anything with SQEX (he seems to have a friendly relationship with some of his former co-workers, Kitase especially) and he still loves his creation, so I wouldn't entirely rule him out of having some kind of role in the remake. It may be more of an unofficial, Hey, how does this sound? consultant-type-role, but I'd like to think he'd be involved some way.

BTW, Sorry to hear about your friend, Liam. Stuff like that really puts life in perspective. We'd all like to think we'd be alive in 7-10 years (hell, next 60 years would nice, well for some, not others :P), but you just never know.

I need to stay alive long enough to play the remake though. :awesome

Glad I have my priorities straight... XD

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there was no urgency for me in relation to the remake but now you guys got me thinking... they need to get it done ASAP & also end the FF saga while I'm still alive & kickin :eyes XD XD

but seriously, my condolences to you, Liam & the friend's family..

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Wouldn't be surprised if he did or didn't have a part in the remake. It's his greatest achievement after all. I could possibly see him not wanting anything to do with it to show he's not a 1 trick pony (although he's not doing a great job so far), but some people are stubborn like that.

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there was no urgency for me in relation to the remake but now you guys got me thinking... they need to get it done ASAP & also end the FF saga while I'm still alive & kickin :eyes XD XD

but seriously, my condolences to you, Liam & the friend's family..


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I'd like it if Sakaguchi was involved, he seemed to work as some kind of quality control, when you look at how no FF related games have been as good as before he left/was kicked out (I'm not saying he alone is all it takes to make a good game, but just having him as a part of the team I think would be good). I think the issue is more, would he be allowed to work with them on a remake, rather than would he want to. At least I think so, but true, he could also be bitter. It's hard to know for sure.

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Doubtful, lol. What has Mistwalker done since Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, anyway?
(Edit: Oh, NDS games, exciting)

See, that's more excuse for him to work on a VII remake, if he isn't busy. :P

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Sorry to hear that, reminds me of when a girl who was a sort of childhood friend of mine died in cancer. It was surreal almost, it certainly makes you think, and realize how fragile life is.

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It would be superb to see a FF7 remake soon. I could just imagine playing that! :cheese

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I think Sakaguchi would be allowed to be involved as long as Nomura's in charge..
Nomura even created that KH BBS character as a tribute to Sakaguchi :cwatudid

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^I remember us talking about that not too long ago, cool to know it actually is a tribute. What better cameo than the father of FF himself? :awesome

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Looks like we'll be waiting awhile if we want to see a next-gen remake of VII...

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In case you haven't yet completely given up hope for a Final Fantasy VII remake on the PlayStation 3, here is Final Fantasy XIII producer Yoshinori Kitase with yet another proclamation of how very unlikely it is to happen. Speaking to TechDigest, Kitase explained that the sheer amount of work and development time that a remake would require makes the prospect "pretty unrealistic."

"If it were possible that we had all the right facilities and the right environment to be able to make and prepare a Final Fantasy VII remake within a year, we'd very much like a go at it," Kitase said, with a very obvious "but" looming on the horizon. "But even Final Fantasy XIII has taken over three and a half years to create. If we were to recreate final Fantasy VII with the same level of graphical detail as you see in Final Fantasy XIII, we'd imagine that that would take as much as three or four times longer than the three and a half years it has taken to put this Final Fantasy together! So it's looking pretty unrealistic to happen!"

So in other words, according to the man who would probably know best, it apparently could conceivably take up to twelve years to make a FFVII remake with the same graphical quality as FFXIII. We're not sure if that was an exaggeration, but it's no wonder Kitase says it's "looking pretty unrealistic."

This also echoes similar comments Kitase made earlier this month, when he said that it's "very hard to make games on PlayStation 3 in the same style as the games in [FFVII's] era had. Making graphics will take an enormous time." He explained that's also part of the reason FFXIII is more linear than past Final Fantasy games.

Still, Kitase did say that if by "any remote chance" it were possible to do the remake in less time, they would. But by the sound of it, you're probably better off lowering your hopes, FFVII fans.

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Oh well... With any lucky I'll be able to play it by the time I'm 33. *shudders* :hmm

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Well that's unfortunate, one big step forward and one huge step back.

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maybe they can finally make it for the PS3 during the PS470 & Y-Box era (lol HBK) XD

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I think VII is good enough the way it is, so in a way I'm happy to hear this... though it's bound to happen eventually, I'd guess. Unless so much time passes by that they drop it. I'm still not sure how I'd want a remake done, like, would it be better if they made it as similar to the original as possible, or as different as possible. :cwatudid

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^ Same with me, I don't see the need for a remake, although I admit I'd find it interesting to see how it would come out. I wouldn't expect them to come close to the quality of the original though.

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I really do think they'd want to be as faithful to the original as possible, but part of VII's charm (imo) is the graphical style. It deals with some pretty heavy/mature shit, and the graphical style balanced it from being too dark. I'm not sure if they could capture that in AC styled-graphics. :cwatudid

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I really do think they'd want to be as faithful to the original as possible


But will they have the skill to do so? The atmospheric feeling I got from VII is totally absent from the comp stuff. And like you said, with the new graphics and stuff, and the full CG backgrounds allowing "modern" camera angles, it'll feel too different.
It's the little things like that which I don't think they creators of the comp stuff took into account, they could repeat FFVII word for word and scene for scene but it's the composition that counts, and I think the current folks working at Square just don't have the skill that the original FFVII team did. :cwatudid

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Their technology is too advanced to make good games. :cwatudid

Yeah I think somehow recreating the feel/atmosphere/whatever of the original would probably be their biggest challenge (aside from the fact that their technology is too good to make an in depth game) and probably one of the biggest factors in making a solid remake.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind if they did pre-rendered backgrounds, HD pre-rendered backgrounds could probably look amazing. I mean look how beautiful Baten Kaitos turned out, and that was on the Gamecube. I'm sure SE could do HD "current generation" pre-rendered backgrounds instead of FFXIIIing it, and it could be mind blowing and still have that familiarity of the original, throw that together with updated character models, voice acting, FMVs, and shiny shiny combat graphics, and everything else basically the same, and I think it could be pretty good. :cwatudid

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I guess it's a sigh of relief for me too, although I really would love to hear some of Barret and Cid's lines from the game. That would probably be unlikely anyway though, unless they added a sound effect or a [beep] in there somewhere.

I don't see why a remake would have to be so super detailed anyway, the characters were anime-like in VII, much like they are in the KH series. The characters from VII in KH2 looked more like their orignal style than the AC look. (Even though most of them were in their AC clothes in KH2.) If there is a remake, let the KH team handle it or something, lol.

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Having pre-rendered backgrounds would be a step in the right direction, imo. As much as they like doing fully 3D cameras angles to show off their 'skillz', I think it really would be beneficial to keep the backgrounds pre-rendered, and the camera fixed in-game. Part of keeping the feel of the original (imo), are keeping the same camera angles. You fuck with those, it'll probably throw everything off :cwatudid .

I'm still not entirely sure about the graphics though. The CC bonus ending and the tech demo were really impressive, and made me think how awesome a realistic game would be, but like I was saying, it's hard to say how the rest of the game would fare in that style. Part of me thinks they might feel obligated to do the AC-styles graphics just to stay in-tune with the rest of the Comp., but as Kris said, most of the Comp. titles lack the feeling VII had, and might cause the remake to not feel the same... I dunno, lulz. Regardless, I do want to see a remake, and I'll be anxious to see what route they take it in.

Anyway, some SQEX people are still interested in it, LOL...

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In a new interview, Final Fantasy XIII director Motomu Toriyama has expressed his interests in creating a Final Fantasy VII remake. Although Yoshinori Kitase, producer of Final Fantasy XIII has already expressed his concerns in bringing the game’s towns to high-definition, and Nomura has said development hasn’t begun on a remake, it looks like Square Enix staffers still want to create it.

“I’m really interested to see this more complete form of Final Fantasy VII portrayed more realistically with the voice and animation and all the suttle expressions there,” Final Fantasy XIII director Motomu Toriyama said. “I’d be interested to see that and to make that, it would be a great experience. I don’t get tired of people asking that question, so I’ll continue to answer my thoughts as long as people keep asking.”

The interview can be seen below. He answers the Final Fantasy VII question at the very end.

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ugh.... The debate will never end. Just make it and be done with it! :awesome

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Or just don't make it and be done with it, even easier.

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Or that.

But why not make more money and make it?

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With the amount of man hours it would take to make, Im pretty sure it wouldnt make nearly as much money as any new FF game. The size of it with the fact that no matter how good the original, it is a remake, which almost never sell as well as the originals. I just dont see it happening... I see no massive loss, I dont even think FFVII is the best game in the series, I'd much rather have a FFIII/IV style remake of VI on the DS. At least it's a more realistic ask.

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Having pre-rendered backgrounds would be a step in the right direction, imo. As much as they like doing fully 3D cameras angles to show off their 'skillz', I think it really would be beneficial to keep the backgrounds pre-rendered, and the camera fixed in-game. Part of keeping the feel of the original (imo), are keeping the same camera angles. You fuck with those, it'll probably throw everything off :cwatudid.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. It's something a lot of people don't seem to even think about, but the way the camera is positioned and moves/doesn't move coupled with the color and lighting of the settings/environments, the exact use of music and sound effects (or lack of them) at certain moments, and so on is everything in creating the feel/atmosphere of a game, just like with movies. There's a lot of small details that have to come together, and if you mess one aspect of it up, it can throw everything off.

That's my main fear of a remake, that it will mess up the ambience of the original, because that's the key in making it feel like VII. If they get that right, it shouldn't make a difference that there is the presence of voice acting, the music is sounding less midi, that everything is more detailed, etc.

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but as Kris said, most of the Comp. titles lack the feeling VII had


I blame the music and especially the environments. Edge didn't have the uniqueness of Midgar with the green glow for exp and the Midgar parts in CC were pretty limited and closed space so that's why I didn't completely get the same vibe from CC. DoC doesn't exist so I'm not even going to comment.

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^I really commend SQEX for CC. Yeah, it didn't 'feel' quite like VII, but it's definitely come the closest to capturing it so far, IMO.

AC (ACC that is, the first one doesn't exist to me anymore) was pretty good, but I'd still put CC above in terms of the VII 'feel'. :cwatudid

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^I really commend SQEX for CC. Yeah, it didn't 'feel' quite like VII, but it's definitely come the closest to capturing it so far, IMO.

AC (ACC that is, the first one doesn't exist to me anymore) was pretty good, but I'd still put CC above in terms of the VII 'feel'. :cwatudid


Besides always feeling confined in CC, I also think Zack being solo a lot during the missions instead of partying up with some people also is a factor. Makes sense for Zack being solo though being a first class SOLDIER and all. Still would've been nice if he could've gone on some missions with his friend that sent him the messages or Angeal when he was still with SOLDIER, etc.

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^That was probably my one of my biggest problems with CC. I REALLY wanted to team up with people, lol. Cloud, Seph, Angeal, Tseng, some random SOLDIER dudes, etc. all would've all been awesome. :/

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Or just don't make it and be done with it, even easier.

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SQEX likes fucking with us...

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So far, Square Enix has said that a Final Fantasy VII remake would be "unrealistic," "tough to do in HD" and "not happening." But hold out hope, die-hards, because during an interview at FFXIII's launch party, Square Enix CEO Yoichi Wada finally admitted that the company is "going to explore the possibility" of revisiting the classic RPG. He didn't completely reverse the long-held position, as he says Square Enix has to decide "whether or not we're going to do it, if we're going to do it, and the platform," but he did finally admit that there have been a lot of fan requests to see the game in a new form, so he's giving it some solid thought.

Of course, the huge success of the game's re-release on PSN probably didn't hurt either. If Square's convinced a remake will sell (and people will play through Gaia yet again, possibly even on yet another platform), we'll probably see it somewhere sooner or later.

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I know some people don't really care about a remake (or think it's unnecessary), but I honestly can't help but get a little excited at the thought. ^^

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That's interesting news. I wonder how long until we hear more about this.

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^That's a good question. :cwatudid

They had such a huge response on their Japanese Twitter page concerning the remake, they had to ask people to stop replying. XD Here you go.

Even the director of XIII wants VII to be remade. (last question)

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Well statistically and logically speaking (with how that last interview was worded) they'd probly release it out on the PS4. If XIII took 3 years alone, the remake would take the same amount or longer and would probably be put out on the next gen to hook people right away. Looking on the PS history, PS1 was available in Japan late 1994, PS2 came out in 2000 and PS3 came out in 2006... so they have a couple years yet to start development on their next gen console while simultaneously working on the remake so that they go hand in hand together.

Besides, it's not like they'd put it out on the PS3 and then come out with a better more lively console a year later and have us be jyped on some of the content... aren't they still working on their motion dohickey? Would probably also go hand in hand with PS4.

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Of course, the huge success of the game's re-release on PSN probably didn't hurt either. If Square's convinced a remake will sell (and people will play through Gaia yet again, possibly even on yet another platform), we'll probably see it somewhere sooner or later.


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@Yojimbo I saw that earlier, actually I never even noticed the link at the bottom of FFM website to thelifestream lol, and my initial response was:

"Hmmm, do we really want a remake of a game just for flashier graphics?"

I like the original, and I like the new graphics from the new games as well. But we already know the story/plot/characters involved. Are they going to reboot it? That wouldn't make any sense...they've built a whole universe around that title. Maybe even a little over glorified <don't hit me>. I must say I love FFXIII, but I couldn't help but notice as soon as the game opened up it felt more like Monster Hunter.

Who knows, maybe they will make Aerith not die and run away with Red while Cloud and the rest of the crew gangbang Tifa??? I'm jus sayin! :eyes

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Who knows, maybe they will make Aerith not die and run away with Red while Cloud and the rest of the crew gangbang Tifa??? I'm jus sayin! :eyes


Now that would be a game worth playing.

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Who knows, maybe they will make Aerith not die and run away with Red while Cloud and the rest of the crew gangbang Tifa??? I'm jus sayin! :eyes


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we've been getting remake hints, rumors, announcements every year since 2005.. but seems like SQEX is more serious about it lately :cwatudid

I don't mind at all :awesome

if I were in charge, I'd release it for all systems.. that could possibly break sales records :eyes

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I think it would cool to have a two disc edition bundled with Crisis Core...

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been a while since we got anything FFVII..

Sephiroth Perfume!

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lol! Awesome, tempted to buy one... I just hope it smells good! Tis the only trouble. Cause ordinary shops wont have this so you could try it first.

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Lol, I could say something really creepy and disturbing right now, but I'll refrain for once. XD ;)

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:shake Oh god.

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Lol, I could say something really creepy and disturbing right now, but I'll refrain for once. XD ;)


NOOOOO! GO for it! XD

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